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Post by mipela on May 30, 2016 14:34:08 GMT 10
How about this !
I would not have believed that this would be allowed to happen in Australia.
On April 19 my son and daughter-in-law boarded a Virgin Australia flight in Brisbane
to fly home to Mackay ( VA 605 ), a Muslim couple boarded the flight and as they had
not been seated together asked the cabin crew or should I say demanded that they
be seated together.
To be fair, I may have requested politely if it were possible for us to be seated together
if it were me, but as the flight is just over an hour it would have been no big deal if it
wasn't possible. But what happened next makes me shudder, this man then went on
to demand that the woman that was seated next to them (once they were seated
together) be moved as she was a non muslim, he would not allow her to sit either beside
his wife or himself, and guess what, the crew moved her.
If this couple were Australian or for that matter any other nationality/faith would they
have been so obliging, my bet is they would have called security and had them escorted f
rom the plane.
If this couple could not bring themselves to sit next to a non muslim, how can they live in
this country, become a member of our community or for that matter become an Australian.
This is Australia, we are a Christian country with Christian values and this will happen more and
more as time goes on unless we let it be known that if you choose in this country you choose
to abide by the laws of this country. I can say this as I myself am an immigrant and call Australia
home. When I came here in 1968 there were no free hand outs you were expected to work,
we lived in ex army tin huts until we saved enough money to be able to move.
And shame on Virgin Australia, I can only imagine how that poor woman felt not being good
enough to be seated next to muslim, on a domestic flight route in her own country on an
Australian airline.
Please send this on to your contacts, this will become the norm unless we stand up and say no
to this unacceptable behaviour.
Tina Bartlett
Proud and delighted to be able to call Australia home, its a great country and lets keep it that way
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Post by epictetus on May 30, 2016 16:28:11 GMT 10
Hi Mip
This should have been sorted at check-in. The man should have known at that point that he and his wife were in separate seats. It seems pretty silly for Virgin to have done this in the first place. If the couple didn't realise at that point they would have been annoyed to find themselves in separate seats. Some people are unfamiliar with flights, even short domestic ones.
What should the crew have done? It's obviously better to find a solution quickly and peacefully, and the passenger who was moved may have been quite unconcerned about it. Dragging a married couple off the plane because of a seat misallocation would be overkill unless the husband was threatening crew or other passengers.
But what of the broader principle? Should a man inconvenience others on account of a religious principle? I would say no short of force-feeding someone pork. But forcing a man to sit a couple of seats away from his wife for an hour? It really shouldn't be that much of an issue. However it was for this bloke.
Actually, it was the fact that she had to sit unaccompanied next to an infidel that was the main concern. This suggests (a) contempt for his fellow passengers and (b) a deprivation of a woman's freedom to be unaccompanied when necessary. I don't know how the law deals with these things, but it's a shame when civil society has to concede to them. Will the Muslim couple tell their friends about the kindness of the passenger who gave up her seat or will they complain about the discrimination they'd suffered at the hands of infidels?
It might have been better if the passenger who gave up her seat had refused to do so, and all the other passengers, too. The cry would have gone up that the Muslim couple had been denied religious (and cultural?) rights or freedoms, but should those freedoms imply the right for a religious minority to impose its laws or mores on others? I don't think so. I would have been happy to see the couple put off the plane and on to the next one where they could sit together. If that caused a hullabaloo then security could take them off.
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Post by cster on May 30, 2016 18:08:10 GMT 10
I was too young to vote on Multiculturalism, Thankfully I cant be blamed for this mayhem.
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Post by Sediba on May 30, 2016 18:38:50 GMT 10
Mip, are you the author. I mean, did you see this happen?
The sequence of events is flawed logically, I don't see how it could have happened that way. I don't believe a word of it. It's propaganda.
Greg
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Post by madametarot on May 30, 2016 19:46:49 GMT 10
Mip, are you the author. I mean, did you see this happen? The sequence of events is flawed logically, I don't see how it could have happened that way. I don't believe a word of it. It's propaganda. Greg I would be happy if they did not blow the plane up. Then again I am easily pleased. |
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Post by Sediba on May 30, 2016 19:58:25 GMT 10
Mip, are you the author. I mean, did you see this happen? The sequence of events is flawed logically, I don't see how it could have happened that way. I don't believe a word of it. It's propaganda. Greg I would be happy if they did not blow the plane up. Then again I am easily pleased. You just gave me a lesson on journalism? You posted a whole lotta dot points in the Universe thread. Apply them to the case above. How many hooks are there? If you're gunna teach em, you may as well use em too. |
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Post by madametarot on May 30, 2016 20:54:11 GMT 10
I would be happy if they did not blow the plane up. Then again I am easily pleased. You just gave me a lesson on journalism? You posted a whole lotta dot points in the Universe thread. Apply them to the case above. How many hooks are there? If you're gunna teach em, you may as well use em too. The best bit about having rules is you have an opportunity to break them. |
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Post by Sediba on May 30, 2016 20:56:53 GMT 10
You just gave me a lesson on journalism? You posted a whole lotta dot points in the Universe thread. Apply them to the case above. How many hooks are there? If you're gunna teach em, you may as well use em too. The best bit about having rules is you have an opportunity to break them. Heheee ... you could just say you swallowed it hook line and sinker. That would be honest journalism, but ya wouldn't keep your job long.  |
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Post by madametarot on May 30, 2016 21:23:24 GMT 10
The best bit about having rules is you have an opportunity to break them. Heheee ... you could just say you swallowed it hook line and sinker. That would be honest journalism, but ya wouldn't keep your job long. After 18 years as a Senior Environment Inspector trying to save the world, the world was worse off than before I started. So I failed at that too. |
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Post by Sediba on May 30, 2016 21:28:30 GMT 10
Now that's honest journalism. Perhaps you helped slow the rate of descent, That's not failure, that's success.
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Post by epictetus on May 30, 2016 22:19:08 GMT 10
Mip, are you the author. I mean, did you see this happen? The sequence of events is flawed logically, I don't see how it could have happened that way. I don't believe a word of it. It's propaganda. Greg Re-reading it, I wonder whether it happened. Logically it shouldn't have. But it's not a viral email (I can't see any reference to it on the net) and the flight details are correct (VA605 flies from Brisbane to Mackay). The seating issue should have been picked up at check-in and the reseating of the non-Muslim passenger after they'd been seated together really sounds weird. I've flown lots of times on Muslim airlines and never seen an incident of this nature. I've certainly been seated next to Muslim women without any concern from anyone. No one asks if you're a Muslim or not. If it happened it would be a very isolated incident, I think. |
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Post by Sediba on May 30, 2016 22:52:41 GMT 10
The incidental details are always true. It has to contain some truth but it's always incidental to events.
The rest is full of holes and auto-suggestion. I may be wrong, but I think Bramson or Virgin recently made a pro-positive statement re refugees. But I may be imagining that.
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Post by mipela on Jun 2, 2016 9:10:56 GMT 10
Mip, are you the author. I mean, did you see this happen? The sequence of events is flawed logically, I don't see how it could have happened that way. I don't believe a word of it. It's propaganda. Greg Hi Sediba, No, I did not see this happen. It was in an email I received from a long time friend but I believe it to be a recent event. The Virgin flight # was quoted so I daresay it is genuine. Mipela. |
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Post by cster on Jun 2, 2016 10:22:14 GMT 10
I don't know what all the fuss is about they're arrogant self centred bastards brought up that way.
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Post by Cedric Katesby on Jun 20, 2016 17:13:33 GMT 10
"It was in an email I received from a long time friend but I believe it..."
Your friend wrote it or your friend passed it on.
Is your friend's name "Tina Bartlett"?
It makes a diffence.
This email can only be found on FB pages with an axe to grind against Muslims. It does appear on the Virgin Airlines page but only via someone else who is clearly not "Tina Bartlett".
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Post by Nobody Special on Jul 6, 2018 21:51:27 GMT 10
I know the Cabin Supervisor who was on that flight on that day so I’ll check the facts and get back to you.
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Post by Pedro on Jul 7, 2018 5:21:00 GMT 10
YES, NSG!! I do know 4 of the Cabin assistants on THAT particular Flight GR 1729!! IS both of US check the FACTS...it would be interesting to compare notes/conversations/interviews!!
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Post by Pedro on Jul 7, 2018 6:50:08 GMT 10
DID WE have the permission to resume the corpse of a 2 years old Post???
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