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Post by madametarot on Nov 4, 2016 15:25:32 GMT 10
One of my hobbyhorses is retirement villages being unnecessary.
Retirement villages rip everyone off with buy back provisions/charges and refurbishment costs before they take it back.
But if we want a so called "tiny house" on a "tiny block" like they offer us in a retirement village, we can't buy a tiny block and put our tiny house on it.
So it is a bit naughty forcing us to move into a retirement village.
The question is - what constitutes a retirement village. Probably no yard maintenance minimal bedrooms and living area a car space and some company. Some try to make them like resorts with all sorts of stuff but someone else can comment on that.
Physically it usually has a small courtyard per unit and the internal roads could be called lanes because they are not full road width.
So why can't the council allow a small block subdivisions with lanes and walking pace speed limits without making it have body corporate/rip-off or under the guise of a caravan park.
The savings would be great and small towns could get a boost (small towns not far from bigger towns with all the service would be ideal). Retirees could create business in small towns and do not suck wages out.
Blocks probably do not need to be more than 200 squ ms (maybe less) One footpath (services under footpath) and lane width internal roads should be fine.
Living area to boundary need only be 1 metre (or less with a fire-proof fence maybe 3m high), if there is any concern about fire.
So how do we start a movement to budge the unmovable councils.
Please comment.
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Post by Sediba on Nov 7, 2016 21:46:04 GMT 10
Why do you want to retire to 'somewhere'? And if somewhere, then why huddled in with others?
And why o why retire to 'somewhere' that in guise resembles a caravan park. Sit under a sandalwood tree and fade away. Slip quitely into a billabong and sink to the bottom. Sit on an escarpment overlooking the dawn as your body stills .. But not a phuckin caravan park full of hypocondriac shufflers and malingerers.
Can't you think of anything better to do with the remainder of your one and only life than to huddle down in a press, waiting in anticipation for the end.
RAGE, RAGE INTO THE NIGHT you silly old bugger. Stretch that old arthritic elbow, reach down between your legs, feel your balls. Try to remember what they're for and that once you were a warrior.
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Post by Sediba on Nov 7, 2016 21:52:04 GMT 10
And no, in case you're thinking of inducements, I will not play tiny croquet in your tiny town.
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Post by cster on Nov 17, 2016 8:51:45 GMT 10
Tiny Croquet? I like 8 Ball. Sed.
So why if there is going to be an older generation in the majority, they want a small premises, why need it be in a park, why not in town just change the whole block to suit. Council would surely like the extra money they make form each premises.
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Post by madametarot on Nov 17, 2016 11:51:03 GMT 10
Why do you want to retire to 'somewhere'? And if somewhere, then why huddled in with others? And why o why retire to 'somewhere' that in guise resembles a caravan park. Sit under a sandalwood tree and fade away. Slip quitely into a billabong and sink to the bottom. Sit on an escarpment overlooking the dawn as your body stills .. But not a phuckin caravan park full of hypocondriac shufflers and malingerers. Can't you think of anything better to do with the remainder of your one and only life than to huddle down in a press, waiting in anticipation for the end. RAGE, RAGE INTO THE NIGHT you silly old bugger. Stretch that old arthritic elbow, reach down between your legs, feel your balls. Try to remember what they're for and that once you were a warrior. Thanks Greg Our guest speaker last night at the Men's Shed meeting from the Heart Foundation . She was very good, quite amusing at times and very practical (she hated numbers). Seeing as the 20 of us present were all in the high risk heart attack age group we all listened intently. BTW over 50yo is high risk. According to the stats the three best things we can do to delay a heart attack or avoid a heat attack are 1) Diet, of course, minimise the cholesterol and the greasies including milk products - to slow down the inevitable build up of plaque in our arteries. 2) Socialise regularly/often with other people - it does not have to be full on all the time, just a friendly chat or even a wave is better than nothing. 3) Keep active, you do not have to do gym work but keep moving for at least an hour per day, it does not have to be in one session. So after reading your above post Greg, I can guarrantee you that your views are exactly opposite to the Heart Foundation advice. You might be right Greg and the Heart Foundation may be wrong. Re Community your living ideas, they are exactly opposite to yours, so either you or the Heart Foundation have it wrong. The other obvious issues are of course: smoking, booze, and having a heart attack with no one around to help. Another high risk stat is men are reluctant to call for help when experienceing heart attack symptoms and we continue to do things "because they need to be done" Those things could be driving themselves somewhere for assistance or simply cooking dinner and the subsequent events are as big a killer as heart attacks. I guess you can ask the Heart Foundation for a print out of their presentation pages. I hope that helps. |
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Post by madametarot on Nov 17, 2016 11:59:26 GMT 10
Tiny Croquet as Greg calls it, aka "Gateball" is providing socialisation and light exercise and amusement for more than 20 million people worldwide. It does not need it's praises sung by me. I am a Lawn Bowler and as a lawn bowler I can see why Gateball has 20 million registered players.
You could say Gateball is a Heart Attack serum for the high risk punters.
Gateball is the cheapest sport to set up and it is popular because they nicked the best parts of many popular games.
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Post by madametarot on Nov 17, 2016 12:19:24 GMT 10
Tiny Croquet? I like 8 Ball. Sed. So why if there is going to be an older generation in the majority, they want a small premises, why need it be in a park, why not in town just change the whole block to suit. Council would surely like the extra money they make form each premises. You got it Cster. The wave of baby boomers is coming behind the ripple of reitrees now living a decade or more longer and wanting to flog off the family home and cash up and live in smaller housing. They don't want granny flats behind the kid's houses and be home all day with no one to talk to, they want their independence - tiny house with some mates around all the time- hence they want retiree communities. |
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Post by cster on Nov 18, 2016 15:48:54 GMT 10
That might be exactly what the followoners the baby boomers are also into. The market shoulf open up if that's the case.
I noticed a disused Holden dealership for sale in Tullamore, on the net, that seemed like a good a place as any to retire to a good sized shed. he he the whole dealership, what a find.
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Post by Sediba on Nov 20, 2016 16:53:05 GMT 10
How can my views be exactly the opposite to the Heart Foundation you silly ol' duffer?
I eat a healthy diet. Blood press normal, pulse normal, cholesterol normal. Active and fit. No medication. So how does that disagree?
As for socialising, then I probably socialise more than you.
The trouble with you is, you've checked into the final departure lounge early so you get a window seat. And you're advising everyone else to check in early, to prepare, to face the inevitable as tho you can ease into that way.
You are wasting your time, all death is violent, in bed or in a plane crash .. And every death must be faced entirely alone. Even if you're surrounded by loved ones, pillows propped, flowers in the vase, grapes on the bench. You still have to face the most violent thing that will ever be done to you alone, so violent that it will kill you. The extinguishment of your life.
I'll wait till my death arrives, I'm already prepared. In the meantime, tiny croquet ain't for me ... I haven't been castrated yet.
Heheeee 😈
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Post by madametarot on Nov 20, 2016 18:14:53 GMT 10
How can my views be exactly the opposite to the Heart Foundation you silly ol' duffer? I eat a healthy diet. Blood press normal, pulse normal, cholesterol normal. Active and fit. No medication. So how does that disagree? As for socialising, then I probably socialise more than you. The trouble with you is, you've checked into the final departure lounge early so you get a window seat. And you're advising everyone else to check in early, to prepare, to face the inevitable as tho you can ease into that way. You are wasting your time, all death is violent, in bed or in a plane crash .. And every death must be faced entirely alone. Even if you're surrounded by loved ones, pillows propped, flowers in the vase, grapes on the bench. You still have to face the most violent thing that will ever be done to you alone, so violent that it will kill you. The extinguishment of your life. I'll wait till my death arrives, I'm already prepared. In the meantime, tiny croquet ain't for me ... I haven't been castrated yet. Heheeee 😈 Sorry Greg but I am right about the heart foundation and your attitudes being opposed. I learned or rather had a few things clarified at that HF chat. We all have a build up of artery plaque it starts from day 1.Cholesterol is only a risk indicator it is not the definitive conditions of your arteries. Plaque restricting arteries is one issue but the bigger issue is plaque breaking away and ending up somewhere it can cause harm. But the biggest surprise was the stress from being a loner (even tho you do not think you are stressing yourself) and then there is the isolation and living alone so no help available if you need it.
Just sayin' being smart ass about it does not change or help anything. Sadly my mate Mike was proud as you are he was the same as you with no tabs, drink what he liked good test results, active. Now half is bits and pieces are gone and he has a bag on his hip to hold his piss. |
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Post by Sediba on Nov 20, 2016 20:26:59 GMT 10
O my phuckin God. So even if you're healthy you're not really healthy, you just don't know it. Is that what you're saying? We're all unhealthy, both the healthy and the unhealthy. Is that right?
Look ... When my times up it's up. What's wrong with living and then dying ... As opposed to living in fear of dying.
I would rather self immolate then huddle in a tiny group and pass the long long years that lay ahead playing tiny croquet with Geriatic nitwits. I would rather plummet to the earth from the sky, wailing all the way like a banshee Stuka with a broken wing then sit listening to the details of your latest hip replacement, your triple bypass, how mny times you have to piss in the nite, how gluten brings you out in a rash .... or all those others things that professional bores (those who do it for a living) talk about.
So ... What phuckin price stress? Once you were a warrior, now you just cut their shadows out of ply.
Hav-a-heart heheee
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Post by madametarot on Nov 20, 2016 21:07:40 GMT 10
O my phuckin God. So even if you're healthy you're not really healthy, you just don't know it. Is that what you're saying? We're all unhealthy, both the healthy and the unhealthy. Is that right? Look ... When my times up it's up. What's wrong with living and then dying ... As opposed to living in fear of dying. I would rather self immolate then huddle in a tiny group and pass the long long years that lay ahead playing tiny croquet with Geriatic nitwits. I would rather plummet to the earth from the sky, wailing all the way like a banshee Stuka with a broken wing then sit listening to the details of your latest hip replacement, your triple bypass, how mny times you have to piss in the nite, how gluten brings you out in a rash .... or all those others things that professional bores (those who do it for a living) talk about. So ... What phuckin price stress? Once you were a warrior, now you just cut their shadows out of ply. Hav-a-heart heheee Thanks Greg, feel free to mock me, it says more about the mocker than the target. Wot I am saying is we can't be smart assed about health because there is plenty to go wrong without pushing our luck. You can put your head down the toilet and pull the chain if it makes you happy, it is none of my concern. |
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Post by Sediba on Nov 21, 2016 8:43:54 GMT 10
You told me to beware of retirement? I would have nothing to do. That was wrong.
You told me that living in isolation would pall, that I had made a mistake. That was wrong.
What you're really saying is that death is close and you're the only one that knows how to handle it. I should listen to you. And your advice is that everyone over 60 should crouch down without fuss, without trouble or opposition, and prepare .. for the end is nigh, and the only sane thing to do is play marbles until Death arrives.
Look Col, I'd rather be found dead in a ditch than capitulate myself into a retirement home while there is still one good phuck left in me. And you want the council, the state and federal governments to recognise (monetary) your early capitulation by providing you with a soft cushy green paddock for you an all the other sheep who believe you, the end is nigh.
Why? Why not just live your life amongst your tribe and go out with dignity?
I'm not mocking you, I'm telling you to stop trying to knit a security blanket because it won't protect you against death. Do you really want to spend the remainder of your one and only life in a tiny regulated place with tiny footpaths and tiny houses and (legislated) tiny roads where the speed limit is a snail's pace listening to all the other ol pharts on their zimmer frames. Why do you want to cop out before your time? Why retire from life just because you retired from work. Work supports life, it's not life itself.
You asked for comment .. Well, I commented.
Grow old along with me,
The best is yet to be,
The last of life
For which the first was made.
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Post by madametarot on Nov 21, 2016 12:36:48 GMT 10
You told me to beware of retirement? I would have nothing to do. That was wrong. You told me that living in isolation would pall, that I had made a mistake. That was wrong. What you're really saying is that death is close and you're the only one that knows how to handle it. I should listen to you. And your advice is that everyone over 60 should crouch down without fuss, without trouble or opposition, and prepare .. for the end is nigh, and the only sane thing to do is play marbles until Death arrives. Look Col, I'd rather be found dead in a ditch than capitulate myself into a retirement home while there is still one good phuck left in me. And you want the council, the state and federal governments to recognise (monetary) your early capitulation by providing you with a soft cushy green paddock for you an all the other sheep who believe you, the end is nigh. Why? Why not just live your life amongst your tribe and go out with dignity? I'm not mocking you, I'm telling you to stop trying to knit a security blanket because it won't protect you against death. Do you really want to spend the remainder of your one and only life in a tiny regulated place with tiny footpaths and tiny houses and (legislated) tiny roads where the speed limit is a snail's pace listening to all the other ol pharts on their zimmer frames. Why do you want to cop out before your time? Why retire from life just because you retired from work. Work supports life, it's not life itself. You asked for comment .. Well, I commented. Grow old along with me, The best is yet to be, The last of life For which the first was made. Sorry if this upsets you Greg, but you have old fartz syndrome (OFS) OFS = You have lived for 60 years and you think you know everything you need to know and your chosen lifestyle is superior. Re aging, if you think your bout of shingles was a tough gig just wait until you get something serious. Everyone as they age seems to get something serious and it is science that keeps me alive today. At your age for example, my diabtes did not restrict me and I did not have a pacemaker and I was kayaking down remote rivers and even to the North Witsunday Islands, motorcycle touring travelling, bicycle riding, overseas tripping motorhoming, and even driving through the bad towns up the East Coast of South Africa (just my wife and I in a rented car). By 71 I had developed nerve damage from diabetes in my hands and feet and heart issues and I needed a pacemaker to simply walk up stairs. Pacemakers are needed when your wiring system ages and becomes unreliable and intermittent. There is no year switch but with aging all men will have a prostrate problem and an artery plaque problem. There are other health issues that not everyone gets but cancer and alzymers are two that I don't want. So to be quite honest your blaze wank makes me think that you have not got a clue. At this point healthwise I had polio as a kid so I have knee issues, I do not have a gall bladder it was killed by a giant stone and went gangerous) I have nerve damage to my extremities from diabetes (in years gone by, from diabetes I would have been blind or dead by now) I have a pacemaker because my wiring is breaking down with age. And I get gout. So far my prostrate is OK and I have no brain health issues and I have not had any cancer treatment. You are so naive Greg it is not funny. |
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Post by cster on Nov 21, 2016 15:22:55 GMT 10
Ha Ha I cant believe you put those last two sentences so close together, super funny
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Post by Sediba on Dec 15, 2016 23:04:52 GMT 10
Ha Ha I cant believe you put those last two sentences so close together, super funny I think he means his prostate is not prostrate, or if it is prostrate then that's still OK because there are no brain issues. Or something like that, maybe. |
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at least something to watch for the day of drizzle. 