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Post by donte on Sept 19, 2017 6:38:29 GMT 10
How 'GREEN' is the FOOTPRINT of a WIND TURBINE? 45 tons of rebar and 630 cubic yards of concrete
I am not a global warming skeptic nor am I a global warming denier. I am a global warming atheist. I don't believe one bit of it. That the earth's climate changes, is undeniable. Only ignoramuses believe that climate stability is normal. But I see NO evidence to say that there are any of the danger changes as those being observed by the warming theorists -- There is much evidence against such claims.
Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) must have foreseen Global Warmism. He said: "The object in life is not to be on the side of the claimed majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
"The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it"
The time will come when people will look back on the carbon phobia of the early 21st century as too incredible to be believed
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Post by donte on Sept 24, 2017 11:26:17 GMT 10
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Post by cster on Sept 25, 2017 6:08:26 GMT 10
Gee's Deleted, Must have been a good rant. Thought you were on a roll an all.
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Post by donte on Sept 25, 2017 7:25:00 GMT 10
It was more global warming Hoo Ha Cster... but it was USA data. Still pertinent and on topic but it lacked the wack
But I will add... they are now discovering gas seven miles down.... well below the decomposing forests limit.
Also word has it that the oceans are heating up..... yeah I know. But they are heating from the bottom up.
Mad scientists at both ends of the spectrum.... ?
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Post by cster on Sept 25, 2017 9:28:01 GMT 10
Ok But then again 7 Billion Fat people must weigh a bit, that'll cause the crust to crush down on the mantle and just like pushing down on a pot on the stove, I'll heat faster.
We've fleeced the ocean of fish and we've fleeced the land of trees. All of this since the Valiant being made in Adelaide.
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Post by donte on Sept 27, 2017 6:35:21 GMT 10
Not much happening on this scene... the green leaners must have capitulated and put their heads back in the sand.
Cster, I would not be bold enough to say the oceans are being depleted of fish stocks... Its not new to the sciences, but when life gets put under stress it multiplies. Fish farming is also making vast inroads into traditional methods of supply.
Trees? Hmmm.... well, the jury is still out as to what is to be classed as vegetation, but the satellite shows substantial growth far outweighing the felling and clearing of forests.
If you were a native on virgin land and you had to feed and provide for your family... would you not clear the rocks so as to farm
And like the Valiant... life will move on.
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Post by cster on Sept 27, 2017 8:21:16 GMT 10
Since I last posted here, We've had vision of a ball of Pilchard off the shoreline in the Lake. The Ball was somewhere near 300feet across absolutely dwarfing the 18ft Fishing Vessel sitting in the middle of it. Pushed into a ball by predatory fish, enough to make any fisherman happy.
But whilst I don't have an old VC to ply the roads between here and the Lake, It is still pleasing to see and hear of the vitality of the lake all but just down the road.
But we have fleeced as I said we have, changed things. buggered things and if we buggered things when we just walked off and left it so.
We're too dear here, the whole world is cheaper to visit. Why would our Pollies allow this to happen, Pricing ourselves out of the world market is stupid
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Post by donte on Sept 27, 2017 8:37:23 GMT 10
Sadly all we have is a bunch of YES men posing as leaders. Collectively they could not negotiate an exit from a wet paper bag let alone make a decision to save themselves. And they certainly did not need a plebiscite to indicate their willingness to bend over.
World class wheelers and dealers?... spare me!
Jeeez.... roll on One Nation and some resemblance to some balls
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Post by cster on Sept 27, 2017 8:56:27 GMT 10
Yes the Plebiscite, There is one hell of a good crowd splitter, never have I heard of such division in this country than that created by the parliament of todays sitting.
The way people are behaving its little wonder we have a society at all. But an inkling of why we are at the bottom of the planets list of quality people. Yet another reason to not value the people to highly
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Post by madametarot on Sept 28, 2017 17:38:05 GMT 10
Yes the Plebiscite, There is one hell of a good crowd splitter, never have I heard of such division in this country than that created by the parliament of todays sitting. The way people are behaving its little wonder we have a society at all. But an inkling of why we are at the bottom of the planets list of quality people. Yet another reason to not value the people to highly C'mon now, it is hardly a revolution, when I was a kid, one kid complained there were no "catholic" telephone boxes they were all "Public" telephone boxes. We survived that as kids. Kids are very resiliant. More seriously tho - we all know "ignorance of the law is no excuse" and all the sex crimes are in the Queensland Criminal Code so DUH! does not someone have to tell the kids about the sexual offences? The kids and cotton wool is a mismatch.
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Post by cster on Sept 29, 2017 7:44:59 GMT 10
Yep Kids could make a joke out of anything and pick on a mick was a common after school practice, outright war kid style and then we grow up. We play on the same footy team or same cricket side. So the pick on a mick gives way to a small dig in the ribs a cheeky jibe about religion and the score or poor performance, nothing but a quick quip for the sake of it. Ignorance comes with a healthy dose of disinterest in community values and only interest in self. No-one reserves his or her opinion these days, its all in ya face and suffer it.
We seem to have low obedience and far too many bottom feeders. We seem to have become a shut the windows shut the doors fence around the place isolated and insular and self interested residents of the land of Oz. That has bred the ignorance and disinterest in anything other than self.
Picked up a $10 note off the floor yesterday, having been forced to take the handbrake shopping. We were in the checkout lane (my favourite place to be when shopping) when I spied the note, the lady in front had been fishing around in her purce for most of the time we were there. Lord know why (toooooo Muuuch shiiiitttteee iinn iitt) but I can guess, so I asked her did you drop this, she checks her money and declares yes and took it saying thanks. Who am I to argue as it wasn't mine that's for sure.
Seems nice on the surface but who invents mental cases like her anyway.
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Post by madametarot on Sept 29, 2017 8:00:03 GMT 10
Yep Kids could make a joke out of anything and pick on a mick was a common after school practice, outright war kid style and then we grow up. We play on the same footy team or same cricket side. So the pick on a mick gives way to a small dig in the ribs a cheeky jibe about religion and the score or poor performance, nothing but a quick quip for the sake of it. Ignorance comes with a healthy dose of disinterest in community values and only interest in self. No-one reserves his or her opinion these days, its all in ya face and suffer it. We seem to have low obedience and far too many bottom feeders. We seem to have become a shut the windows shut the doors fence around the place isolated and insular and self interested residents of the land of Oz. That has bred the ignorance and disinterest in anything other than self. Picked up a $10 note off the floor yesterday, having been forced to take the handbrake shopping. We were in the checkout lane (my favourite place to be when shopping) when I spied the note, the lady in front had been fishing around in her purce for most of the time we were there. Lord know why (toooooo Muuuch shiiiitttteee iinn iitt) but I can guess, so I asked her did you drop this, she checks her money and declares yes and took it saying thanks. Who am I to argue as it wasn't mine that's for sure. Seems nice on the surface but who invents mental cases like her anyway. A bit too cynical for me old son. Charity is fine, if you can afford it. The greed and looking after #1 test tho; is something I failed, and I have observed the world is not a better place for my generosity. In retro I should have found more ways of helping without detriment to me. Life is like the mother on the plane when the oxygen supply drops down, she should take the oxygen first, before the baby, or they both might die.
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Post by cster on Sept 29, 2017 17:21:48 GMT 10
Yes I was having a good rant about what gripes me. Cynical? Absolutely crabby as all get out.
Charity is fine when you can afford it. Agreed, and yes mum should get set up first so she can assist the bub without incident. That's logic, sometimes not used in a panic but good to know otherwise.
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Post by Guido on Jun 29, 2018 13:10:31 GMT 10
...Recently in the real world ....away from the influence of Canberran yes men and the Clingon Oz Press
Essentially, the poor pay for the virtue-signalling of the rich. Dr Matt Ridley opens chapter 14 of Climate Science: The Facts with some blunt claims.
Here is a simple fact about the world today. Climate change is doing more good than harm. Here is another fact. Climate change policy is doing more harm than good.
On top of that he points out that the poor are carrying the cost of today’s climate policy. That is something for the ALP and the social justice warriors to think about.
This should remind people of another great postwar example of destructive virtue-signalling – massive foreign aid to the developing nations aka the Third World. That did more harm than good for the people of the Third World, apart from the crony criminals in power. The great Lord Peter Bauer was onto that very smartly, starting in the 1940s and his findings have been consolidated lately, notably by William Easterly The White Man’s Burden: Why the west’s efforts to aid the rest have done so much ill and so little good. There are exceptions to the rule such as hands-on medical care and private education.
Ridley mentions in passing some of the cases where apparently smart people have made very bad calls, starting with a prominent and wealthy leftwinger who he debated on TV. Faced with the charge that climate policy was hurting the poor he replied “But what about my grandchildren?”. As though the future wellbeing of the presumably affluent and privileged grandchildren of the talking head might be threatened by policies that help the poor who are with us at present. Ridley also cited a son of Charles Darwin who thought that eugenic breeding programs were essential to save civilization and Paul Ehrlich who in 1972 predicted that millions would die due to over-population (prompting the one-child policy in China).
As for being a climate denier.
I am a card-carrying member of the consensus that climate change is real and partly man-made. I also concede that climate change probably does already cause some harm in some places. The point is that the harm is currently smaller than the good it is doing through longer growing seasons, milder winters [?], slightly higher rainfall and faster growth rates of crops and forests because of CO2 fertilization. And that net good stands in stark contrast to the net harm caused by climate change policy.
Global greening is well documented on the basis of satellite observations and other lines of evidence. A team led by Dr Zaichun Zhu from Peking University found that 25 to 50% of the vegetated parts of the planet have greened lately and 4% have browned. According to Dr Zhu “The greening over the past 33 years reported in this study is equivalent to adding a green continent about two times the size of mainland USA (18 million square km).”
Another team found that the growth rate of some common reef-building coral increases with more CO2 up to 0.06% which is 50% more than the current level.
The Downside: 1. Ethanol subsidies. He reports that ethanol uses 5% of the world’s grain, mostly corn. This put up the price of food dramatically in 2008 and the poorest suffer. He cites an estimate that almost 200,000 people die annually from this impost. This is probably on the high side and many different figures circulate but even Mike Hulme who is a dedicated but nuanced alarmist reported in strong terms on this situation. He wrote this in Why We Disagree About Climate Change:
The UN’s special rapporteur on the right to food condemned the growing of biofuels as ‘a crime against humanity’ because they diverted arable land to the production of crops which are then burned for fuel instead of sold for food’…Rather than contributing to the theoretical food security of hundreds of millions of the world’s poor in 50 years time, it has reduced the actual food security of tens of millions of the world’s poor today.
To be continued with biodiesel programs, the promotion of diesel cars (less CO2 but more nitrogen oxides and particulates), burning wood pellets shipped across the Atlantic, wind power, solar farms, fuel poverty, the neglect of more serious environmental problems and more.
....Now about those obnoxious in your face useless effffing windmills...
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